Sunday, November 29, 2015

Not Only Can Computers Not Think, They Never Will.

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Our very first debate of the class, on November 20th, 2015 was the motion Can Computer Think? One of the claims given by the proposing team was drawn from paralleling the development of computers and technology with human development. Whether we are looking at the trajectory of evolution or the growth of human beings from infancy to adulthood, we see complex advancement from primitiveness to advanced and more articulate creatures. The proponents to this motion claimed that technology too, has been evidenced to depict the progress to becoming more complex and articulate at a rate that if computers are not thinking now, they soon will be. In his paper Can Computers Think?, John Searle says no. He argues that digital computers don't and never will, have the mental functioning like those of human beings. The nature of his refutation goes back to the fact that computers are only syntactical and human minds are more than just syntactical, they are also semantical; they have content. To be better understand what he means by this assertion, he compares the operations of digital computers with human minds.
The distinction he gives between the two faculties; mental process and programs processes goes as follows. The operations of digital computers can be specified purely formally; we specify the steps of operations in computers in terms of abstract symbols-sequence of zeros and ones, but the symbols have no meaning, they are not about anything! The zeroes and ones, for example, are just numerals; they don't even stand for numbers. This feature of programs, that they are defined purely formally or syntactically, is fatal to view that mental process and program processes are identical. There is more to having a mind than having formal or syntactical processes, our mental states by definition, have certain sorts of content, they have both syntax and semantics.
Going back to the Turing Test or the Chinese room experiment. It is important to note that producing the desired output is not enough to classify the process as a thought process. If the man in the Chinese room is replaced with a digital computer that correctly recognizes the given symbol and produces the right output, it may fool the people outside the room that it indeed does understand Chinese but we know it doesn’t. Producing the right output is not enough, interpretation and understanding the meaning of this symbols constitutes being a Chinese speaker. The same goes for the Turing Test, the main idea is to mimic mental process, keyword mimic. More efficient programs may be designed, and will ultimately pass the Turing Test, but none of these programs will ever have semantic content. None of this program will find meaning in what the person on the other side is saying and produce the desired output only by the virtue of understanding the content and not by following the designed algorithms specified only syntactically.


14 comments:

  1. This is similar to mine, and the authors of my 2 sources would agree with you.

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    1. Kelsey -- were your sources really saying "true A.I. is not possible" because computer's can't think, or were they just saying "true A.I. is very hard / a long way off"?

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    2. One source said that true AI is not possible where as the other did not explicitly say it but said, "Thankfully then, as fast as neural networks grow and cognitive computing is cool, but in a kind of scary way… the computers will still need us humans to be there." (from my Forbes article)

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  2. How can you know that your "thoughts" have semantic content, whereas the symbols that a computer is processing do not? Your thoughts are at least partially composed of words in some language, which are essentially arbitrary symbols that have some meaning attached to them through social convention, right? Why can't there be *meaning* attached to the symbols that computers are working with?

    More generally: not everyone agrees with Searle, and his "Chinese Room" argument... I would love to see some counter-arguments discussed in the comments here...

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    1. Human thoughts have a (difficult to describe) form before they are put into words or symbols, though, unless we do not define that as thought. (Which would be sad, because I normally think that way and recently found out that that is unusual and unhelpful, but still. I want to believe that I actually think!)

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    2. Do you *know* that there aren't symbols in that pre-language thinking? Maybe you are subconsciously using symbols to think with, but these symbols are not available to introspection from your conscious mind?

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    3. I don't, and I was going to counter with the idea that perhaps babies think before they learn language (and as they learn it) but then I remembered that evidently researchers just found some support for Noam Chomsky's universal grammar theory. So we are in fact "programmed" to look for patterns and use patterns of symbols. So I concede to your point.

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    4. Oh, I'm not *positive* that human thought is accomplished through the manipulation of discrete symbols... after all, at the lower neuron-level of the brain, there's a lot of "continuous" stuff going on, with chemicals, time-varying electrical signals, etc... also, emotions play a large role in our thinking, and emotions *feel* more like a continuum than a set of discrete states. But then again, perhaps there are only a finite number of emotions that humans can experience.

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    5. Well, the type of thought I was initially describing that I have was very emotion-based. I was just conceding because I couldn't articulate an argument...for now!

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    6. Yeah. If someone says... "but maybe your subconscious does X", how does one refute that? After all, it's your *sub*conscious, and if we really knew what was happening in it, then it would be "conscious", wouldn't it?

      Maybe your subconscious does all of it's thinking in terms of glowing magenta orbs that dance to improvisational jazz...

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  3. As I read through the arguments saying it is impossible for a computer to think, one reoccurring question comes to mind. I wonder why we are so obsessed with making a computer or machine think the same way that humans think? In my opinion, there are many flaws in the way that humans think. I understand that it is reasonable to try to create AI to mimic what we view as 'intelligent beings' ie humans, however, I feel as though AI does not necessarily involve recreating the exact way that humans think.

    In addition, do these articles claim that humans are the only being that thinks? If not, much like Dr. Stonedahl suggests, how do we know that the thoughts of creatures such as animals or insects have meaning attached to meaning and understanding. With this in mind, I believe that thinking needs to be explained as a continuum rather than yes or no.

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    1. If it's a continuum, with some things "thinking" more or less than other things, then do computers already do some "low level" of thinking? What about a calculator? Or a clock? Is it still thinking, but just at a really really stupid/basic level?

      Do we rank a rock as having 0 thinking ability, Albert Einstein as having 100, and then place other things on the spectrum in between (or above, since surely there are better thinkers than Einstein).

      Other classmates: do you agree with Cat's suggestion of a "continuum" for thinking?

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    2. A continuum of thinking sounds reasonable (kind of like the continuum of creativity that came up during the debate the other day), but that also doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't a hard line somewhere, so it really doesn't help answer any questions.

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